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	Comments on: Review to Rivalry: The Story Behind ASR&#8217;s Contentious Clash with Tekton and Carver	</title>
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		By: Bruno		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 22:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.audioresurgence.com/2024/04/asrs-contentious-clash-with-tekton-and-carver.html#comment-29654&quot;&gt;Bruno&lt;/a&gt;.

And also, the logical way to cook with music when looking for taste is to use a DSP. May still need some research to produce good DSP... If the market really want it.

We would like any recording to sound good, even a bad recording. That&#039;s a problem :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.audioresurgence.com/2024/04/asrs-contentious-clash-with-tekton-and-carver.html#comment-29654" data-wpel-link="internal">Bruno</a>.</p>
<p>And also, the logical way to cook with music when looking for taste is to use a DSP. May still need some research to produce good DSP&#8230; If the market really want it.</p>
<p>We would like any recording to sound good, even a bad recording. That&#8217;s a problem 🙂</p>
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		By: Bruno		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 22:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anybody can mesure the transparency of hifi stuff at home. Nothing subjective. Takes time and work. Don&#039;t nead big money to do it any more. Only a computer and a standardised room.

Anybody can edit a review on the web and share the work he did before. That&#039;s the way Internet work. Sharing is free and can be done honestly.

Both can ruin a reputation for sure. So what ?

You have plenty of professional subjective review if that&#039;s your preference. But it&#039;s not. That&#039;s a matter of fact.

Then,it appears that transparency is not the goal for every one. Some may want to improve the music to their taste. Like cooking... But that&#039;s not hifi anymore. 

In fact, what you can read on ASR is simple : Transparent hifi stuff is quite cheap nowadays. No nead to pay more as you won&#039;t ear any difference. 

How can you choose between A and B if everything sound tranparent ? No way !

Hifi business is dead. No need to be sorry. ASR is not gulty. Transparency is. You have looked for it and now you have it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody can mesure the transparency of hifi stuff at home. Nothing subjective. Takes time and work. Don&#8217;t nead big money to do it any more. Only a computer and a standardised room.</p>
<p>Anybody can edit a review on the web and share the work he did before. That&#8217;s the way Internet work. Sharing is free and can be done honestly.</p>
<p>Both can ruin a reputation for sure. So what ?</p>
<p>You have plenty of professional subjective review if that&#8217;s your preference. But it&#8217;s not. That&#8217;s a matter of fact.</p>
<p>Then,it appears that transparency is not the goal for every one. Some may want to improve the music to their taste. Like cooking&#8230; But that&#8217;s not hifi anymore. </p>
<p>In fact, what you can read on ASR is simple : Transparent hifi stuff is quite cheap nowadays. No nead to pay more as you won&#8217;t ear any difference. </p>
<p>How can you choose between A and B if everything sound tranparent ? No way !</p>
<p>Hifi business is dead. No need to be sorry. ASR is not gulty. Transparency is. You have looked for it and now you have it.</p>
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		By: Bruce Fergusson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Fergusson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2025 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amir&#039;s methods are transparently presented. If someone has a contrary method, they are free to present that as well.  And I have seen adverse views exchanged, generally cordially, in the past several years that I have been a member.  If Amir were not transparent in his methodology, then that would be truly unfair.  If I were to present a product with specifications, then it is on me to make sure my product fulfills those specs.  If my product does not define specs or performance, then all is fair - Caveat Emptor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amir&#8217;s methods are transparently presented. If someone has a contrary method, they are free to present that as well.  And I have seen adverse views exchanged, generally cordially, in the past several years that I have been a member.  If Amir were not transparent in his methodology, then that would be truly unfair.  If I were to present a product with specifications, then it is on me to make sure my product fulfills those specs.  If my product does not define specs or performance, then all is fair &#8211; Caveat Emptor.</p>
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		By: bull buchanan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bull buchanan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 20:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Martin, In this case, it&#039;s the manufacturers bringing harm to consumers. Reviewers are just shining a spotlight on it. They&#039;re to be lauded for this, not shot down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, In this case, it&#8217;s the manufacturers bringing harm to consumers. Reviewers are just shining a spotlight on it. They&#8217;re to be lauded for this, not shot down.</p>
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		By: Martin Smith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anytime any single person or group of people intentionally bring harm to other individuals it is a very bad thing, regardless of the intention or reason. It’s odd how sometimes we cannot seem to learn from past history. Adolph Hitler jumps to mind quickly as do the congressional witch hunts of the 1950s against Hollywood. When we can’t learn as people from our past historical mistakes I feel sad wondering where we are heading.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anytime any single person or group of people intentionally bring harm to other individuals it is a very bad thing, regardless of the intention or reason. It’s odd how sometimes we cannot seem to learn from past history. Adolph Hitler jumps to mind quickly as do the congressional witch hunts of the 1950s against Hollywood. When we can’t learn as people from our past historical mistakes I feel sad wondering where we are heading.</p>
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		By: matt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2024 03:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The enjoyment of music is subjective.  A little cheap piece of kit from China may measure well, but often sounds flat and lifeless.. especially when pushed even a little bit.. early distortions.  ASR puts itself out as the arbiter of &quot;quality&quot; when in fact there is no objective &quot;quality&quot; for listening.  People have a wide range of preferences and even physical differences.  What is enjoyable isn&#039;t always what &quot;measures best.&quot;  
(especially when &quot;measuring 40 year old devices of unknown provenance or blaming a company for devices built by a different company)

Insects may &quot;measure&quot; as the &quot;best&quot; protein source, but nope, never, ever..  And that type of &quot;science&quot; is what the &quot;Audio Science&quot; is pushing.  
Go eat your insects if you want.
I will stick to my steaks, my Carvers and my Tektons because they satisfy MY preferences.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The enjoyment of music is subjective.  A little cheap piece of kit from China may measure well, but often sounds flat and lifeless.. especially when pushed even a little bit.. early distortions.  ASR puts itself out as the arbiter of &#8220;quality&#8221; when in fact there is no objective &#8220;quality&#8221; for listening.  People have a wide range of preferences and even physical differences.  What is enjoyable isn&#8217;t always what &#8220;measures best.&#8221;<br />
(especially when &#8220;measuring 40 year old devices of unknown provenance or blaming a company for devices built by a different company)</p>
<p>Insects may &#8220;measure&#8221; as the &#8220;best&#8221; protein source, but nope, never, ever..  And that type of &#8220;science&#8221; is what the &#8220;Audio Science&#8221; is pushing.<br />
Go eat your insects if you want.<br />
I will stick to my steaks, my Carvers and my Tektons because they satisfy MY preferences.</p>
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		By: CAH		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CAH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2024 13:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Tangi might be right. It’s the Wild West, lawless, and corrupt. One only needs to spend a couple days on Twitter (X) to realize how hopeless it’s become.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Tangi might be right. It’s the Wild West, lawless, and corrupt. One only needs to spend a couple days on Twitter (X) to realize how hopeless it’s become.</p>
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		By: Craig		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2024 11:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It isn’t just the ASR forum that goes overboard. Just look at audiogon and wbf.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn’t just the ASR forum that goes overboard. Just look at audiogon and wbf.</p>
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		By: Tangi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tangi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 20:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The internet is a cesspool you can’t trust anything anyone says anymore. Who says asr’s motives are for fairness to consumers? Why is that even a thing? Who cares about consumers anyway. Just let everyone figth it out and last man standing wins.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internet is a cesspool you can’t trust anything anyone says anymore. Who says asr’s motives are for fairness to consumers? Why is that even a thing? Who cares about consumers anyway. Just let everyone figth it out and last man standing wins.</p>
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